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On this week’s show, a conversation on the wildly popular Netflix show Making a Murderer; an interview with Phil Zuckerman, author of Living the Secular Life and founder at Pitzer College of one of the first departments of secular studies; and a recommendation by author Bruce Bauman of three books that he describes as a “philosophical and foodie trilogy of the early part of the 20th century.”

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Featuring Tom Lutz, Laurie Winer, and Seth Greenland. Produced by Jerry Gorin.